Showing posts with label first theory on the origins of the Schochenmaiers' family name. Show all posts
Showing posts with label first theory on the origins of the Schochenmaiers' family name. Show all posts

Friday, November 14, 2014

How the "Schoch + Maier" theory can be tested

I start to think that the theory of Jacob Schichenmaier (1861) on the origin of our family name can be adequately true. Today I'd like to demonstrate how we could test it. I stumbled upon an example of the origin of another family name whose history looks pretty similar to the our one.

Well, there is last name of the "Schaichmaiers".

Their family history can be traced back to the place where they definitely come from: it's Holzgerlingen.


As you can see, the area is next to places where our forefathers had lived. 




The genealogists are very happy about that family name because its origin had been attested in the town history on the basis of "urbanonyms" (placenames within a settlement like street names, square names, etc.). 


By the end of the 15th century, the first street names can be already found in the town chronicles. Besides, Altdorfer Gasse, Dietzengasse, am Eschelbach, Glemat (= Klemmert), Stauchgasse, Kelter, Bainhus, Siechenhaus, am Kreuzerwasen, a Schaichhof 

Schaichhof Kieser'sche Karte

can be seen on the street map in 1495 as "Schayen Mayer" that later will be written like "Schaichmaier". I think this alloy of two names is more than just interesting for us. What if our family name had been built in the same way? 

Of course, we don't have any idea whether Schayen Mayer meant "Mayor of Schaich" (occupational surname) or just "Schaich + Maier" (double family name). 

Luftbild Schaichhof
Schaichhof in 1930s

But what about Schaichmaier in the quality of family name? The very first Schaichmaier I found was attested in the 16th century: 


If Johann Christoff Schaichmaier was born in 1596, so his father Hans Schaichmaier should be born in 1570s. 

Let us notice that in 1495 it was spelled as Schayen Mayer and in 1570s we already meet probably one of the first Schaichmaiers. The gap is about 60-80 years only! Thus, I conclude the fusion can happen relatively fast and the same could take place in the case of the Schochenmaiers. 




Wednesday, September 10, 2014

Suitable couples of the Schochs and the Maiers

Today, I'd like just to suppose who could be those two families, which, according to the first theory of the Schochenmaiers' origin, had united their businesses and married their children. 

I searched on FamilySearch for couples married before 1640s because as I demonstrated the very first Schochenmaier had got a child in 1652: Maria Schochenmeyer born on the 2nd March (baptized on the 7th March) 1652 in the family of Leopold Schochenmeyer and Anna Seueber at the Britzingen village

And also for those who bore the family names of Schoch and Maier. Below you'll find my results of the most suitable couples. 

Well, among millions of cards on marriage and born children from any parents, I found only three couple who meet our requirements: 

Be aware: Nobody of the below mentioned persons belongs to our forefathers! It's just a sort of probable constructions on the basis of available data. I should point out that nowhere is to be noticed that they gave to their offspring an "alloyed" surname of SCHOCHENMAIER, but I am not even sure that it might be done when a child was born... maybe  they changed their surname later, who knows? 


1st couple: Anna Maria Mayer and Georg Schoch married on 23rd August 1635 in Öhringen:

Name:
Anna Maria Mayer
Gender:
Female
Marital Status:
Single
Marriage Date:
23 Aug 1635
Marriage Place:
Öhringen, Württemberg, Germany
Father:
Spouse:
FHL Film Number:
1340180
Reference ID:
p345

It's here:



2nd couple: Anna Mayer and Georg Schoch married on 27th April 1624 in Owen:


Name:
Anna Mayer
Gender:
Female
Marriage Date:
27 Apr 1624
Marriage Place:
Owen, Württemberg, Germany
Father:
Spouse:
FHL Film Number:
1055831

It's here:



3rd couple: Agatha Schoch and Jacob Mayer married before 1622 in Unterensingen:

here is noticed that they got their son Melchior:
Name:



Geschlecht:
Male



Taufdatum:
17 Feb 1622



Taufort:
EVANGELISCH, UNTERENSINGEN, SCHWARZWALDKREIS, WUERTTEMBERG



Name des Vaters:



Name der Mutter:
Agatha Schoch



It's here:



It's pretty suspicious that all three couples are to be found in almost the same area... But, on the other hand, it may indicate that such couples would be plausible in Württemberg, around Stuttgart, where Swabian Germans lived.  It also corresponds with one of the core zones in our mapping of Schoch and Maier together.  

Interestingly, if you ask me what about the possible couples of the SchAch and Maier, I must say "nothing"! There are no couples with such family names married before 1640s... 

It guides me to conclude... I will announce it in the next posting))) G'Day!!! 


Saturday, July 5, 2014

First theory on the origins of the Schochenmaiers' family name


Where do the family names come from?

http://forebears.co.uk/surnames

Surnames and family names have arisen throughout history as civilisations advance and become increasingly useful to distinguish people when they are recorded in written records, particularly tax records.
The earliest surnames in Western Europe grew out of existing methods of distinguishing people. Thus, a noble ruling from Savoy may have been known as Umberto de Savoy, a blacksmith may have been known as John le Smith and a bald man may be known as William the Bald; much in the same way we refer to people in similar ways today, such as John the Gob or Rachel the Bean Counter. These names were not necessarily hereditary, but were dictated by circumstance. The son of the noble, Umberto de Savoy, may rule at Lorraine and be known as Lothair de Lorraine, the son of John le Smith may be a cheese-maker and known as Dominic Cheeseman and the son of William the Bald may have a head shaped like an onion and known as Darren Onionhead. Surnames only arose when families decided they were going to stick to a 'pseudo-surname''. This change occurred at different periods in different regions. For example, surnames were largely adopted between the 11th and 16th centuries in England, between the 16th and 19th centuries in Wales and between the 11th and 19th centuries in Scotland. Each family has to be taken on a case by case basis. Though it is not possible to prove the origin of most surnames, it is possible to make educated guesses in some cases.
A surname's origin is influenced by the progenitor's social class and the culture they lived in. Those of higher social status often took surnames that are uncommon today; whereas people of lower social status often took what are today common surnames. It is also clear that people of lower social status had less control over their surnames, no doubt handed to them by aldermen, lords and other authorities. Thus we find numerous insulting surnames, such as 'Tew', Welsh for fat; Tardiff, meaning sluggish and Dullard, meaning a hard and conceited man. 

Types of family names

 There are four general types of family names:

Patronymic Surnames

The majority of surnames are derived from the name of a male ancestor. These evolved from pre-existing non-permanent naming customs whereby an individual was identified by reference to a male ancestor or ancestors. Some example are: Bedo ap Batho ap Heylin (Welsh: Bedo, son of Batho, son of Heylin), which would become Bedo Batho; Lars Andersen (Scandianvian), Andrew MacDonald (Scottish: Andrew son of Donald) and Henry fil. Grimbald (English: Henry son of Grimbald). Such names are essentially the name of the father, sometimes with a suffix or prefix to denote the name as a patronym. 

      Occupational Surnames

Surnames derived from the occupation of an ancestor are also common, with Smith being the most common surname in the UK. This category of surnames is divided into two groups: standard occupations and titular occupations, such as Stewart, derived from an ancient clan title in Scotland.

Topographical Surnames

Topographical surnames can be derived from features of a landscape (Hill, Ford) or from place names (London, Aston, Eaton, Molyneux). Those surnames derived from place names were initially adopted by families that held land. However, later such adoptions of surnames derived from place names occurred when people moved from one place to another.

Descriptive Surnames

Descriptive surnames are less common, partly as they were often derived from unflattering characteristics such as: stupidity, girth, baldness and sometimes outright insults like Blackinthemouth. Many of these surnames have disappeared. There is on the other hand good survival of surnames derived from positive or neutral characteristics; Trow & Triggs (meaning trustworthy), Young, White and Good.


What about the Schochenmaiers? What aren't we all?

1. Our family name doesn't come from any patronym. There is no first name related to "Schochenmaier".

2. Our family name doesn't come from any common word. That is why it's not descriptive surname.

3. All in all, we may have either topographic or occupational origin, additionally thereto we can be either of mixed origin or of any specific emergence based on any special events.


First theory of Schochenmaier's origin

According to the Occam's razor, which states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected, we should start with the theory advocated by the Schochenmaiers themselves. To my knowledge, there is only one story put into writing, that of Jacob Schochenmaier (1861-1923). The scan of the story can be found on Facebook page of Janet Schochenmaier:


Transcript of it:

"In Germany, many years ago, there was a wagon and buggy company formed. There were two families involved in this company, the Schoch's and the Mair's, and in some way, these two names were rolled into one, and that is the way that the name Schochenmaier came into being. 

When Jacob reached early manhood he became a wheelwright in the company. This trade, for the rest of his life, didn't appeal to him and after his marriage to Barbara Ellen Martin, they made their home on their first homestead in Odessa, U.S.S.R. From Odessa they traveled on a sailing ship to America..."

It was noticed by Clarence Schochenmaier (1920) - grandson of Jacob. As we can see, the familial tradition gives over such an interesting version of the Schochenmaier's origin. One the one hand, it's reliable: the Germans were keeping their traditions and stories for many years. But, on the other hand, it could be a sort of interpretation, a legend or a myth, a pop etymology like eggcorn or something like that. As for me, I do believe in this legend. Only one question is then arisen: what time in the history is it about? If Jacob meant the beginning of the 19 century, then we may consider the story being historically true. However, if it's about 16 or 17 century, then I would be very careful in determining the likelihood ratio... We must confess that we have no idea what Jacob meant by "many years ago"...

By the way, how do you understand this text?

First: Jacob became a wheelwright in the company... but he was born in Russia in 1861 (St. Petersburg Archives under the name of "Jacob Schochenmeier"). Does it mean that they re-founded their company in the Russian Rohrbach?

Second: "after his marriage ..., they made their home on their first homestead in Odessa". I don't get the chronology of these events. Both of them were born in Ukraine, but it's after the marriage that they made their first homestead in Odessa... Why "after"? If "first homestead" means Russia after Germany, then where had they been before?

So, my opinion is that it's a bit mixed up, but it doesn't trouble the theory of the Schochenmaiers' origin)))

In order to define the time period, let's find out what's the first mention of the Schochenmaiers at all. It will be our next post.