The Schochenmaiers' relocation of the 17th century discovered?

Playing with the spellings of Schochenmaiers, I stumbled upon a woman with the name of Maria Schochenmeyerin who, being married to Michaele Dettling, got a baby Christoferus Dettling in 1676 in Altheim.

1. The forename of Michaele Dettling is written in a correct way, it's just a south dialectal form of the full name Michael that expresses any aspect of being "small". It might be read like Mikhele (compare with the Swiss Company name "Nestle" - small nest);

2. The spelling of Maria Schochenmeyerin corresponds to that of Sara Schachenmeyerin where I explained that "It's not a problem at all. In the Southern Germany until the 18th century (and in the Bavarian dialect till now!) the female family names got ending -in." So, we may conclude that father of Maria had had the surname of Schochenmeyer.

3. If Maria bore a child in 1676, she could be born between 1640s and 50s. After I thought of it, it caught my imagination. What if this is Maria Schochenmeyer daughter of Leopold Schochenmeyer from my posting on the oldest Schochenmaiers ever!!! Maria Schochenmeyer had been born in 1652 and thus she could get a baby in 1676 being just 24 years old at that time. There is a time coincidence but what about the spatial continuum?

4. The family of Maria (1652), namely Leopold Schochenmeyer and Anna Saueber had lived in Britzingen, it's South Baden near Freiburg, today on the border with France but at that time it was German Alsace (biggest towns are Straßburg and Mülhausen). The today's Maria had got her child (1676) in the catholic Altheim of the Schwarzwaldkreis within Württemberg. Where is it?

On Wikipedia you may find three different Altheims:

Altheim, Biberach, a municipality in the district of Biberach, Baden-Württemberg

Altheim (Alb), a municipality in the district of Alb-Donau, Baden-Württemberg

Altheim (Ehingen), a municipality in the district of Alb-Donau, Baden-Württemberg

All of them are not far from each other, but it's not Schwarzwald. Schwarzwald might be here:



On the net you may find a hole list of areas which made part of Schwarzwaldkreis:

Below are the Oberamt cities for the Schwarzwaldkreis area of Württemberg: 
Oberamt Balingen 
Oberamt Calw 
Oberamt Freudenstadt 
Oberamt Herrenberg 
Oberamt Horb 
Oberamt Nagold 
Oberamt Neuenbürg 
Oberamt Nürtingen 
Oberamt Oberndorf 
Oberamt Reutlingen 
Oberamt Rottenburg 
Oberamt Rottweil 
Oberamt Spaichingen 
Oberamt Sulz 
Oberamt Tübingen 
Oberamt Tuttlingen 
Oberamt Urach


Under Oberamt Horb you may find the following:

Parish Cities/towns for Oberamt Horb

Horb 
Ahldorf 
Altheim !!!!!!!!
Baisingen 

.........

So, we found out there there was another Altheim in Schwarzwald, that is a part of Horb today.

Horb am Neckar is a town in the southwest of the German state of Baden-Württemberg. It is located on the Neckar river, between Offenburg to the west (about 56 kilometres (35 mi) away) and Tübingen to the east (about 29 kilometres (18 mi) away).

In addition to the main town of Horb, the municipality includes a number of communities which are recognised within the terms of the 1970s Baden-Württemberg local government reform, that is they have an elected council and council chairman. These are Ahldorf, Altheim, Betra, Bildechingen, Bittelbronn, Dettensee, Dettingen, Dettlingen, Dießen, Grünmettstetten, Ihlingen, Isenburg, Mühlen, Mühringen, Nordstetten, Rexingen and Talheim, the last of which is made up of the formerly independent parishes of Obertalheim and Untertalheim. These are referred to formally (for example, in postal purposes) as Horb-Ahldorf, Horb-Altheim, etc. 

The history of Horb is relatively boring because from 1381 to 1806 it belonged to Austria, and that's why it was officially Catholic:

Further Austria or Anterior Austria (German: Vorderösterreich, formerly die Vorlande (pl.)) was the collective name for the early possessions of the House of Habsburg in the former Swabian stem duchy of south-western Germany, including territories in the Alsaceregion west of the Rhine and in Vorarlberg.

While the territories of Further Austria west of the Rhine and south of Lake Constance were gradually lost to France and the Swiss Confederacy, those in Swabia and Vorarlberg remained under Habsburg control until the Napoleonic Era.

Here is the Württemberg map of the 17th century. The Austrian territory is highlighted with brown:

Some pictures of Altheim in Horb:

The Catholic Church of St. Maria's Birth does exist till now. Who knows, maybe Maria Schochenmeyer christened their children here: 

 It's only 120 km (75 miles) from Britzingen where she probably was born.

To go on foot will take 25 hours, thus it might be half day by carriage or 4-5 hours of horse riding. It seems pretty realistic. If it's true, then we have found the very first example of the Schochenmaier's relocation!!! It's not so far as Stuttgart and Heilbronn, but it's already a sort of trend ... 

I should add that on November 1677 Maria will get another boy called Conrad:

but before those two boys she had got a girl Catharina Detling on the 29th March 1671: 

So, she had two boys Conrad and Christofer who were Dettling as their father Michaele Dettling. 

The surname distribution map proves that the highest rate of Dettling family name is precisely in Horb a.N.: 

The bearers of this surname organized a real club dedicated to their genealogical research: http://www.dettling-familiengemeinschaft.de/index.shtml

  I think I'll contact them, maybe they have any information on our Maria Schochenmeyer. We can't be sure that it's the same Maria from Britzingen but it's so suitable that can be true)))

Thanks for your attention and interest. 

The oldest Schochenmaiers ever

In order to find out when two different families (very possibly the Schochs and the Maiers) could, according to Jacob Schochenmaier, found their joint wagon and buggy company in Germany, we should search for the very first mention of Schochenmaiers in the history.

I will present my first results for both the Schochenmaiers and the Schachenmayrs.

Let's start with the very first mention of Schochenmaiers that means the oldest ones which can be found anywhere.

The oldest notice on the FamilySearch refer to Maria Schochenmeyer born on the 2nd March (baptized on the 7th March) 1652 in the family of Leopold Schochenmeyer and Anna Seueber at the Britzingen village (Lörrach area, in Baden):

  If the information is right, then Leopold Schochenmeyer should be born between 1620s-1630s, it's the beginning of the 17 century. So, we may suggest that the company had been found earlier, maybe between late 16th - early 17th century, or during the 16th century. The production of the company might look like that:



There is no information about Leopold himself, he's mentioned as father of Maria.


On the place

Britzingen is indicated as place of birth. Today it's an administrative part of Müllheim:

Britzingen with his district Dattingen and the romantic villages Güttigheim and Muggardt is located in the heart of Markgräferland, in the foothills of the southern Black Forest, on the edge of the Rhine valley.

Here you can see Britzingen between French Mulhouse, Swiss Basel and German Freiburg (where I am living!)

In 1526 Britzingen as part of Markgraf (Margrave) became Protestant following the actions of the German monk Martin Luther. It's evangelical:

The two villages, Britzingen and Muggardt, belong together. Britzingen is a well known wine- and vacation resort with lots of private places to stay and some good restaurants.



The Winzergenossenschaft Britzingen, a local wine cartel, and the private wine cellars of the Behringer family, produce a fine wine.

They have customers as far away as Japan.  Wine cellar tours and wine tasting are being held regularly during the summer months.

Here you can see even a house of the 17th century:

 

On the time

1620-1650s - was time when Britzingen had been a part of the Baden-Durlach within Margraviate of Baden:

It's highlighted with whity-brown on the left at the bottom (where is Müllheim). 

The name translates to Margraves' Land, in reference to the Margraves of Baden. They ruled the area from the 12th century as a margraviate of the Holy Roman Empire until its elevation to the Grand Duchy of Baden in 1806, following the Empire's dissolution. Markgräflerland is the combination of three duchies: Badenweiler, Rötteln and Sausenburg.The river Rhine marks the frontier to France in the west and Switzerland in the south.

Before his death, the prince Christopher I divided the Margraviate between his three sons. Philip succeeded him in 1515 but died childless in 1533, and his share went to his brothers, Bernard and Ernest. In 1535, they made a fresh division of their inheritance. It would be the first of several partitions, establishing the two main lines of the House of Baden – Baden-Baden and Baden-Durlach (Baden-Pforzheim until 1565) – which would last until 1771. However, the relations between the two lines were not peaceful, and the constant fragmentation did not help.

During the Reformation, several branches, led by Baden-Baden, remained on the side of the Catholics, the others joining with Baden-Durlach on the Protestant side. The Thirty Years War made matters worse for all the branches. Many of them were exiled to other countries. Baden suffered severely during the war. The 1648 Treaty of Westphalia restored the branches and their churches to their own lands. Gradually the rivalry subsided. During the wars of Louis XIV, the "Sun King" of France, the two Margraviates were ravaged by the French troops. The forces of the Holy Roman Empire, led by the Margrave of Baden-Baden, “Turk” Louis William (reigned 1677-1707) fought against France. 

So far for today. Now we know the names of the first Schochenmaiers ever! But where had been the second ones?